Bert Sobanik, 51
Home Town:
Lyman, Maine

Occupation:
Home Inspector
I am currently a Home Inspector for Real Estate transactions, but had until 2004 spent thirty years in Manufacturing, especially in New Product Prototype Development. In spite of up to date skills and ... See full Bio

As Michigan goes...so goes the Nation
As Michigan goes...so goes the Nation
September 10th - 10:08 am

I was recently in Michigan and visited Flint, where in the early 1990's I had worked for a week training UAW model makers at AC Delco to operate specialized prototyping equipment. The Flint that I saw this week was very different , the facilities where the equipment was installed are currently being demolished, I mean a facility of many, many, acres of production, and Research and Development were being dismantled, the workers already layed off. The "Chevy in the Hole" plant on the river, site of transportation production activity since the late 1800's and a Chevrolet Plant since the early 1900's is a open slab, devoid of any activity at all, that is 130 acres of former transportation production activity, now a "Brownfield Site" . The former "Buick City" facility is also closed, this was a factory complex that produced, drive train, body work, assembled and finished entire lines of GM cars. Dupont had a facility across the street from Buick City when I saw it in the early nineties, that was dedicated to the finishes that were applied there, the paint flowed through pipes that went over the road so that there was no need for packaging. The Nation has lost a huge resource of Industrial capability that took over a century to create.

Plant closures have decimated Flint Michigan. Unemployment is reported to be 12.3% in Flint, population is fleeing with 1998 showing 131,000 residents, and currently less than 125,000. Of that number 26.4% live below the poverty line.

In the sixties GM employed 89,000 workers in Flint, the birthplace of the UAW. The community had flourished with above average opportunities drawing ambitious workers with the promise of good wages and benefits. With the manufacturing boom came all the service businesses, insurance, health care, educational institutions. What will be the basic industry to support these institutions now?

I spoke to Governor Granholm about the current and future state of opportunities in Michigan and she was very clear that the lack of a well thought out trade policy from Washington was the cause of much of the 400,000 lost manufacturing jobs in the last 8 years alone. Our nation's lack of national health care makes our labor unable to compete with the other industrailized nations of the world, who subsidize ALL their businesses by providing national health care. The Governor also pointed out that last month Ontario Canada (which shares the same basic demographics) produced more vehichles than Michigan, for the simple reason that Canada supplies health care to it's workers so the car companies do not have to.

It is easy for Americans who are in areas less devastated by the manufacturing "Dustbowl" to be unconcerned with conditions in Flint, however manufacturing was one of the largest basic creators of wealth that created the middle class in this country. The ripple effect of it's demise will spread like cancer to the other sectors of the economy as more people cannot pay their mortgages, or are left without health care insurance, or no longer are paying into Social Security , or cannot afford to send their children to college. Everyone else in the country should look at the disenfranchised people of Flint and see that not only are these people Americans who are suffering, but that these are the customers for the goods and services provided by YOUR business.

Comments:
 
mockstar
Greener future
September 14th - 6:07 am
I wonder what you think about the creation of jobs through renewable energy initiatives.

Broadly speaking, the concept reminds me of the New Deal: Roosevelt put unemployed Americans to work on projects the country needed.

I think the idea of sparking an interest in alternative energy -- investing, creating, building infrastructure -- is the kind of thing the next president should do. He needs to be able to inspire new generations of entrepreneurs: the wildcatters of wind, solar, and new approaches in American auto & energy companies.

When the energy crisis of the 1970s was in full force, President Carter demanded that Detroit make cars with better fuel efficiency. They complained and said it couldn't be done, but they actually did start making cars with significantly higher MPG ratings in a few years. (The loophole for pickup trucks and the like, favored by the former farmer, are what allowed more recent SUVs and gas guzzlers to be produced under the old law.)

I think the new president needs to organize, inspire and give incentive to Americans to address our energy use.

If we succeed in a cogent green model for the US, we inspire the rest of the world to do the same, save our own money, contribute less to foreign, sometimes, hostile, economies, and create technology and business models that we can export.
 
ConcernedCitizen
National health care
September 13th - 11:41 pm
I appreciated reading your comments on the state of the industrial base in Flint, Michigan, and other parts of the state. I thought you raised a good point about how the national healthcare programs of other wealthy countries like Japan, Germany, and Canada are effectively a subsidy for the automakers in those nations. It would also seem like it would be sensible to pool the risks of worker healthcare across a wide population base (like the insurance industry) rather than entrusting this to standalone companies or even industries. Would it not make more sense for IT workers (mostly young) to be paying into a national healthcare scheme while steelworkers (mostly older) retire and become heavier users of health care. A nationwide focus would also a greater emphasis on preventative medicine, including advice on nutrition and lifestyle, rather than simply excluding people because of poor they are poor risks due to smoking or overeating, because ultimately the health of our society depends on the health our workers.



, where statistics could be used to determine rational pricing
Bert
The Good Professor
September 12th - 11:40 am
The good Prof. himself said he didn't have the answers and was a bit thoughtful looking when I suggested that a rapidly shrinking middle class in this country may not be able to prop up so many academics (did you see those big Universities? built by auto-money, maintained now by people going broke). I don't think that he will see it to be a problem until he sees it like I have, one company after another going down the tube. When someone else loses their job or their entire industry and means of making a living you think "oh my that poor slob" when it is you, you have a lot of time to think hard about why so many folks are doing just fine but you have to learn to enjoy "free trade", "globalization", "New Economy", and all the other buzz words that mean tuff poo for you.
As soon as we start outsourcing Government and Legal Services things will get set right in a heartbeat.
Elizabeth
Yo Bert.
September 11th - 12:23 pm
So what do you think about the comment Prof. Root made that the constant lowering number of jobs isn't as bad as our country makes it out to be? I'm still baffled by it.